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Thai Immigration "Clarifies" 90-day Rule Change

PHUKET: -- Following a spate of complaints from confused foreigners entering Thailand on “visa exemptions”, Pol Capt Krissarat Nuesen of the Phuket Provincial Immigration Office has made a statement to clarify the 90-day rule and how it was changed, effective April 1.

Visa exemptions, allow tourists from certain countries who arrive at the border without a visa to have permits-to-stay, typically for a period of 30 days, issued by Immigration officials.

“People who enter Thailand on a ‘visa exemption’ are permitted to stay only 90 days in a six-month period,” he said, adding that the six months is calculated as a 180-day period starting from the first day that the foreigner enters Thailand on a visa exemption.

“From October 1, 2006 to March 31, 2007, we counted all the days from the foreigner’s first day regardless whether the foreigner was actually in Thailand or not.

“Also, foreigners were not permitted to stay in Thailand after their 180-day period had expired [counted from the foreigner’s first day], regardless whether the foreigner had stayed a full 90 days in Thailand or not,” Capt Krissarat said.

“However, the rule has been changed. From April 1, we now count only the days the foreigner has stayed in Thailand – and foreigners are now allowed to stay past the 180-day period,” he said.

The number of consecutive visa exemptions allowed is no longer limited to three, he added.

As for foreigners who complain about discrepancies in the counting of days, K. Krissarat reminded those who choose to enter on multiple visa exemptions that it is up to the discretion of the Immigration officer on duty how many days to grant the new arrival, provided it is 30 days or fewer.

Capt Krissarat stressed that the 90-day rule does not affect people who have been issued a visa from the Royal Thai Embassy or Consulate.

“If you want to stay longer, then apply for a visa from a Royal Thai Embassy outside Thailand. That way the rule will not apply to you,” he said.

Regarding parents bringing children into Thailand to attend school, Capt Krissarat said, “Foreign parents whose children will study in Thailand can apply for non-immigrant ED visas for their children at any Royal Thai Embassy outside Thailand.

“The parents can apply for non-immigrant O visas for themselves so they can enter the country and care for their children here, and then they can apply for permits to stay at the Immigration office after entering the country.

“Alternatively, if the parents are not going to be staying in the country long, they can get a tourist visa from an embassy or enter on a visa exemption,” he said.

“Many international schools in Thailand help parents prepare applications for permits to stay,” Capt Krissarat said, adding that children under 14 years old are not fined for overstay.

-- Phuket Gazette 28.04.2007

There, that's nice and simple now, isn't it!


A visa is required for any visit to Thailand for over 30 days, or for any visit for which you do not hold a valid ticket for onward travel out of the Kingdom.

NO VISA is required if you have a passport from any Western Country not listed in the Visa On Arrival list below, that is valid for at least 6 months AND an onward ticket out of the Kingdom.
You will be stamped in for 30 days and the entry stamp is NOT a visa. It can be extended for 14 days (before it expires) at an Immigration Office.

This "onward ticket" business is important as some major carriers will not let you board a flight with a one way ticket, and no one tells you this, not even the UK Foreign Office despite me asking them to amend the information on their website on numerous occasions.

In the UK, Visa are granted at The Royal Thai Embassy in London, but to be quite honest, their system is far from user friendly, and if you telephone them and just mention the word "visa", the operator connects you to a recorded message. So unless you know what you are doing, use a Consulate office instead.

Do it the easy way, get your visa from any Thai Consulate.

You don't have to use a consulate local to you, most people tell me the one in Birmingham is particularly easy to use and the staff friendly and helpful, this is also the one my friends and I always use.

Thai Consulates are staffed by UK citizens, and in all my dealings with them, they have been extremely helpful.

At a consulate, visas can be issued "while you wait" for an extra £5.00, or by post. If you want to do it by post you have to consider the implications of releasing your passport to the postal system and its employees. More important than you may at first think.

Main Types of visa

Tourist Visa:-  60 day stay. This is the most common type of visa, in the UK it costs £25.00 per entry.

Non Immigrant:-  90 day stay. The official guidelines for granting this type of visa are quite complex, in practice however, I have been granted Non Immigrant visas every time I have asked, with no problems whatsoever, this only works at a consulate though.
The cost is £40.00 for single entry, and £90.00 for multiple entries.

Over 50?
If you are over 50 years of age, you can apply for a non immigrant "O" visa with no requirement for complex documents, however a copy of your birth certificate may be required.
Many websites, and indeed the Thai Consulate's own guidelines make applying for this visa seem difficult. In practice however, you can just walk in, and walk away with one after a few minutes (well you can in Birmingham anyway!).


This is the most commonly mistaken aspect of travel to Thailand, not helped by some of the Immigration Department's own literature calling a visa exemption entry stamp a "visa on arrival", and now in Suvarnamhumi Airport the immigration desks are signposted as "Visa On Arrival". No wonder we are confused if they don't even know the difference!

Visa On Arrival*:-  Although some websites suggest this is possible, it is only available to residents of the following 14 countries :-

1.   Bhutan
2.   China
3.   Cyprus
4.   Former Czechoslovakia
5.   Hungary
6.   India
7.   Kazakhstan
8.   Maldives
9.   Mauritius
10. Oman
11. Poland
12. Russian Federation
13. Saudi Arabia
14. Ukraine

*Sometimes, the term Visa On Arrival is mistakenly used for the 30 day visa exemption entry stamp, they are 2 completely different things.


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Royal Thai Embassy
29-30 Queens Gate
London
SW7 5JB

Tel: 020 7589 2944
Fax: 020 7823 9695

Website: www.thaiembassyuk.org.uk

BIRMINGHAM
Royal Thai Consulate
One Victoria Square
Birmingham
B1 1BD
Tel: 0121 643 9481
Fax. 0121 643 9485

Website: www.thailand-visa.com

 


DUBLIN
Royal Thai Consulate
18-19 Harcourt Street
Dublin 2

Ireland
Tel +353 (0)1 478 6412
Website: www.thaiconsulateireland.com




HULL
Royal Thai Consulate
Priory Court
Saxon Way
Priory Park West
Hessle
Hull  HU13 9PB

Tel: +44 1482 581668
Fax: +44 1482 224255
Email: enquiries@thaiconsul-uk.com
Website: www.thaiconsul-uk.com

CARDIFF
Royal Thai Consulate
Empire House
Mount Stuart Square
CF1 6DP

Tel 029 2046 5777
Fax 029 2046 5777

 


GLASGOW
Royal Thai Consulate
4 Woodside Place
Charing Cross
Glasgow
G3 7QF

Tel 0141 353 5090

 

LIVERPOOL
Royal Thai Consulate
Boodles House
35 Lord Street
L2 9SQ

Tel 0151 255 0504
Fax 0151 255 1070


Extending Your Stay

It is viewed as a serious offence to overstay your visa, so don't even think about it!
If you are caught on "overstay" anywhere other than departing from an airport, you
WILL be arrested, thrown in jail, then deported. So make sure you get an extension or a renewal. Overstay at the airport is a much easier process, you are taken away to a room where you sign a lot of forms in Thai only, and you are charged 500 Baht per day with the first day free. This was changed after protests from people going to the airport on the last day of the visa, and not actually leaving until after 12:00 midnight.

Renewing or extending your visa is quite simple, in recent years the Immigration Department has lost it's joke name of The Department of Intimidation, and become much friendlier and more helpful. They have even stopped closing down for lunch now!

All major cities have immigration bureaus, as do tourist destinations.

In Bangkok you can take your passport and drop into one of the shops opposite the bureau to get your photocopies and passport sized photos. You CAN get them elsewhere, but the officials sometimes complain about the quality and size. Buy them from one of the outlets opposite and they will be OK even if they are lousy copies. (I am not suggesting there are any financial links of course)! Outside Bangkok, you will find someone just outside the immigration bureau set up with a photocopier and camera, this is the place to go for no hassle about picture sizes etc. It should be obvious which service is run as a sideline.

The process usually takes about an hour. Here is a map showing the location of The Immigration Department, which is just about walking distance from Lumphini MRTA subway station, although if it's hot, take a taxi to Sathorn Soi 3, or where you see this sign:-

Look for this sign and you are in the right road!


This is the TM form, you should be given one on your flight or with your ticket, fill it in on BOTH sides BEFORE you get to the immigration desk, one for arrival and one for departure.
The TM number is required when you check into a hotel and on some official documents.
Take good care of it during your stay, if you lose it, make sure you arrive at the airport with about 4 hours to spare to deal with the paperwork!


 

 


Immigration Police website


New Visa Rules 21.10.06 (although the date coincides with the first day of the military coup, this is not related as it was announced well prior to the dissolution of the Taksin government)

On 21st September 2006 the Immigration Bureau announced that no more double entry visas will be issued at the Thai embassy in Penang (Malaysia) from October 1st., a move clearly aimed at the long term residents who do a "Visa Run" every few months. These will remain available at embassies in Kota Bharu and Kuala Lumpur. "The decision whether or not to issue double-entry tourist visas rests solely at the discretion of each diplomatic mission."

The official document says "Foreigners from countries qualifying for visas on arrival can come in and out of the country as many times as they like with a visa on arrival, but can stay for a maximum of 90 days in any six month period. If they stay 90 days then they must leave for 90 days before they are entitled to another visa on arrival. They can, however, go and request a tourist visa from a Royal Thai Embassy or Consulate abroad and come back into the country"

I am assuming that for this latest pronouncement, the term Visa On Arrival means the normal entry stamp, and not the Visa On Arrival you apply for at the airport if you come from one of the 14 countries listed above. Unless you assume this is what they mean, this makes little sense.

It would appear that if you enter with a normal visa issued from an embassy anywhere but Malaysia, there should be little or no change in your entitlement to stay in Thailand.
For long term residents, it looks as if a visa run a but further away will be required, possibly Singapore or Hong Kong.
I expect these restrictions to be in force in Cambodia, and embassy officials to scrutinise passports and refuse re-entry visa for people who are obviously residing in Thailand on multiple tourist visas.

Also, no new investment visas will be issued after October 1st., existing visas in this category may be extended if the holder still has funds of 3 million baht and is still doing business in Thailand.

The effect of this measure will be to discourage those who stay for years at a time on tourist visas, and do a "visa run" to get a new double entry visa every few months.

If you are over 50, an "O" visa entitles you to a maximum stay of 90 days per visit, is valid for 12 months, and is stamped "Unlimited" in the Number Of Entries section. With one of these there is no need to get anything other than an entry stamp every 90 days, but I would imagine it will require a trip back to your home country every 12 months to get it renewed.

 

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